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Gironda's idiocy is clearly demonsrated when compared to Roy "Glen" Hillegan's physique who was a DEADLIFT fanatic lifting 400x35.
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Vince Gironda's chicken legged, butt-less, trap-less physique certainly demonstrates what stupidity like avoiding the DEADLIFT and obsessing over the pathetic front squat results in. You are entiled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. If you want to deflect and project, go ahead, but your thesis about Serge Nubret and his workout style is, has been, and will continue to be wrong. You are obsessing over a few pages in a book written 20 years ago. There are many ways besides the deadlift to build the body. Vince Gironda was known to hack squat 700 pounds in his prime.
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Mike Mentzer would curl 275 to failure as part of your dreaded HIT. Your overated Arnold began his arm workout with 250 pound curls. This does not mean these men were not strong, however. He did, however, allow and even promoted the neck press. Vince Gironda, trainer of champions, would not allow deadlifts, back squats, or bench pressing in his gym. Most did not do the deadlift because the thinking at the time was it was a power lifitng move, and most bodybuilders dont want to build the big bubble buttox, which draws attention away from other areas and detracts from the X look most strive to attain.
#Serge nubret book full#
You should change your name of FULL OF _IT.ĭude, you are the one implying that somehow, by a miracle, Serge Nubret stumbled upon the same concepts that your man crush Pavel would bring to the people 30 years later, when in fact, at that time most bodybuilders used a high volume approach to building the physique. But their both volume, HIGH volume so the concept applies to both. So ultimately Serge's form of volume is far more than PTTP's. So in total quoting Serge's own given routine he freakin' 36 sets of 12-15 reps which in effect is more than 3x the total # of reps which total 540 freakin' reps as opposed to PTTP's theoretical 5 reps x 20 sets of 100reps which is less than 1/5th the total reps. Lying Leg Curl – 8 sets of 15 reps/Standing Leg Curl – 8 sets of 15 reps = 16sets Quads Squats – 8 sets of 12 reps/Leg Press – 6 sets of 12 reps/Leg Extension – 6 sets of 12 reps = 20 sets In fact iusing the same muscles used in the Deadlift he did a helluva lot more than 20 sets. In fact, I'm now using a conventional bar.Īgain, I NEVER said Serge did 20 damn sets of anything! I simply quoted him. I never hypothesized Serge's use of the hexbar. I said IF he had considering his 100kg bench press weight he probably would have used no more than 150kg in the Deadlift. Obsessive Compulsive Deadlifter.Īt least your name is right Mostly Full Of It. It actually makes PTTP pale in comparison to the work necessary to build and maintain a high level phisique.ĭude, perhaps you should change your name to OCD. To somehow correlate his hard work with PTTP and say this is similar is deception at best and sheer lunacy at worst. He never did 20 sets of five reps of only one exercise for one bodypart and then move to the next bodypart. He would do 8 sets of 12 reps of one exercise, with many exercises per bodypart. So, in summary, Serge Nubret, who used, in your quote above, 30,40, or 50 sets per bodypart, 16 sets arms, twice per week, and used 12 reps per set, NEVER DID A DEADLIFT. Now, Mike Mentzer, a high level bodybuilder who used the dreaded HIT, did a set or two of deadlifts at the end of his back workout for the spinal erectors, but only six or eight reps and not to failure. Bodybuilders used low sets and reps in the movement because they were not interested in building the entire posterior chain with the movement, just the back width. Most who did the deadlift used it with a wide snatch grip to build lat width, something that cannot be done on a hex bar unless you pinch grip the weights like Steve Reeves used to do. Unlike Nubret, who NEVER used the deadlift, some did. In fact, most high level bodybuilders used a high number of sets per bodypart, and worked out twice per day when in contest prep. That he used high volume was not uncommon. Dude, Serge Nubret was lifting and competing before Pavel was born, in 1969.